I usually like Clay Shirky a lot, though his most recent piece seems poorly reasoned. Shirky suggests that women are not aggressive enough in negotiations, but then he mentions how this hurts them in 2-sided markets, and he lists colleges as one such market. Did he miss the fact that the majority of all college graduates are now women? Nearly half of medical school students nationwide are now female. Young women are out-earning men in some areas and professions:
Women’s pay relative to men’s rose rapidly from 1980 to 1990 (from 60.2% to 71.6%), and less rapidly from 1990 to 2004 (from 71.6% to 76.5%), though young women have started to outearn young men in some large urban centers with young women earning up to 20% more than their male counterparts.
But women with children have less negotiating power:
However, other trends are decidedly negative: a study at Cornell University concluded in 2005 found that women with children were less likely to be hired and if hired would be paid a lower salary than male applicants
These 2 facts suggest that raising kids limits women’s negotiating power. Women don’t have an innate lack of negotiating skills, but the circumstances of raising children imposes some hard constraints, that fall disproportionately on women. Shirky is ranting about the wrong issue.
This is what Shirky says:
This worry isn’t about psychology; I’m not concerned that women don’t engage in enough building of self-confidence or self-esteem. I’m worried about something much simpler: not enough women have what it takes to behave like arrogant self-aggrandizing jerks.
Remember David Hampton, the con artist immortalized in “Six Degrees of Separation”, who pretended he was Sydney Poitier’s son? He lied his way into restaurants and clubs, managed to borrow money, and crashed in celebrity guest rooms. He didn’t miss the fact that he was taking a risk, or that he might suffer. He just didn’t care.
It’s not that women will be better off being con artists; a lot of con artists aren’t better off being con artists either. It’s just that until women have role models who are willing to risk incarceration to get ahead, they’ll miss out on channelling smaller amounts of self-promoting con artistry to get what they want, and if they can’t do that, they’ll get less of what they want than they want.
…And it looks to me like women in general, and the women whose educations I am responsible for in particular, are often lousy at those kinds of behaviors, even when the situation calls for it. They aren’t just bad at behaving like arrogant self-aggrandizing jerks. They are bad at behaving like self-promoting narcissists, anti-social obsessives, or pompous blowhards, even a little bit, even temporarily, even when it would be in their best interests to do so. Whatever bad things you can say about those behaviors, you can’t say they are underrepresented among people who have changed the world.
Again, it is tough to reconcile the career success that young women are having with Shirky’s narrative of “They are bad at behaving like self-promoting narcissists”.
This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read in any of Shirky’s essays:
Now this is asking women to behave more like men, but so what? We ask people to cross gender lines all the time. We’re in the middle of a generations-long project to encourage men to be better listeners and more sensitive partners, to take more account of others’ feelings and to let out our own feelings more.
Maybe “we ask people to cross gender lines all the time” but usually the goal is to make the world a better place. For instance, “encourage men to be better listeners and more sensitive partners” probably makes the world a better place, whereas encouraging women to be “anti-social obsessives, or pompous blowhards” does not. It is really disappointing to be reading stuff like this in an essay by Shirky.
However, even in an ideal future, self-promotion will be a skill that produces disproportionate rewards, and if skill at self-promotion remains disproportionately male, those rewards will as well. This isn’t because of oppression, it’s because of freedom.
If professional women in their 20s continue to pass by professional men in their 20s, then clearly women know how to promote themselves. If women with children continue to be handicapped in their careers, then we are dealing with oppression, not freedom. At the very least, we are dealing with work practices and family practices that are in need of innovation.
In these circumstances, people who don’t raise their hands don’t get called on, and people who raise their hands timidly get called on less.
…It’s tempting to imagine that women could be forceful and self-confident without being arrogant or jerky, but that’s a false hope, because it’s other people who get to decide when they think you’re a jerk, and trying to stay under that threshold means giving those people veto power over your actions.
Surely someone hacked into Shirky’s blog and is trying to discredit him by publishing an idiotic essay? Where is the nuance and subtlety of thought that gave us such classics as Power Laws, Weblogs, and Inequality? I feel like I’m reading a fundamentalist version of Shirky, a stripped down version of Shirky, lacking any of the careful qualifiers that grace his previous work.
My main problem with his essay is the broad-brush nature of his description of the problem. It is pointless to talk as if women are doing poorly in every profession, when nearly 50% of new doctors are female.
Since Shirky works in and around the tech industry, I suspect that a lot of his remarks were aimed at the tech industry. Had he explicitly said “What I’m saying here only applies to the tech industry” then he would have been on slightly safer ground. There are certainly some odd gender imbalances in the tech industry, which I just wrote about in my last post.
I feel like I know where Shirky is coming from. I’ve come close to writing a similar essay. I have seen talented women sabotage their own careers. For some reason, this happens more in the tech industry than anywhere else. I have felt a frustration similar to the one that I think Shirky was trying to express.
The title of this blog post is “The most disappointing essay Clay Shirky has ever written”. Why am I disappointed? Mostly because I have come to expect a great deal of emotional honesty from Shirky. In posts such as “The Failure of #amazonfail” he does a rare thing: he admits that he made mistakes of judgement due to being caught up in the emotion of the moment, and he also talks himself back to sanity, all the while being candid about the emotions he is experiencing. That kind of emotional transparency is missing from “A rant about women.” I understand the frustration of seeing talented women sabotage their own careers. On the one hand, I know it is damn tempting to rant about that frustration. On the other hand, I think it is important that I, and Shirky, keep ourselves from expressing that frustration in untruthful ways.
Shirky has been a supporter of many politically progressive causes. So have I. Most progressive activists occassionally suffer some moment of burn out, during which time, they may say some damn reactionary things. They lean on their reputation at such times. I’ve done it. Shirky is doing it here. His essay amounts to “I will say some unqualified, harsh things here, to vent my frustration, and surely people will cut me some slack, because my previous progressive efforts have surely earned me some good will.” There is some truth in that – no one will change their opinion of Shirky simply because he wrote one bad essay. But we will all feel disappointed.